There is a movement to get third-party and independent presidential candidates on the ballot this year as many Americans have expressed frustration about a rematch between President Biden and former President Trump. But for independent presidential candidates like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. it’s a costly uphill battle.

This episode: White House correspondent Asma Khalid, political correspondent Ashley Lopez, and voting correspondent Miles Parks.

Our producers are Jeongyoon Han, Casey Morell & Kelli Wessinger. Our editor is Erica Morrison. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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