1. Most Trump-Leaning Independents: He Shouldn't Be POTUS If Convicted NPR 16:31

According to the latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist poll, 49% of Americans believe he has done something illegal and an additional 26 percent believe he has done something unethical but not illegal.

Still, half of all independents prefer Trump to Biden — just 42% support the sitting president.

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